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2004-01-22 11:57:23  |  pauls writes:

Info gathered with permission from:
www.hendi.nl/xke/main.htm

This car was reportedly originally shipped to Oxford. It was located in Florida in 1980. At that time it retained its original engine. By 1982 it was being restored. The restoration was completed about 1980, and the car is now located in Florida. Dispatched July 14, 1961.


2005-08-30 05:31:22  |  Robert writes:

Offered for sale at Bonhams Goodwood Revival Auction 16/9/05 estimate £45000-£65000


2005-08-30 07:46:38  |  pauls writes:

Additional info from Bohnams:
www.bonhams.com/cgi-bin/public.sh/pubweb/publicSite.r?sContinent=EUR&screen=lotd ... href="http://images1.bonhams.com/&sPath=2005-08/11/7132157-4-1.JPG" target="_blank">http://images1.bonhams.com/&sPath=2005-08/11/7132157-4-1.JPG

Dating from the first few weeks of production, this vehicle is one of the earliest surviving Jaguar E-Types (the chassis number sequence of right-hand drive roadsters commenced at 850001) and was originally, and most appropriately, registered ‘XKE 1’ in the UK. Finished in red with black interior, ‘850027’ has features typical of early production models, including the flat floor and external bonnet locks. The car is offered for sale from an important private collection of Jaguars in the USA; not used for a few years, it will require re-commissioning before further use.
Estimate: £45,000 to 65,000


2005-12-02 11:10:52  |  Tony Brown writes:

Failed to reach its reserve at the Bonham's auction at Goodwood Sept. 2005. I have placed a photo of this car on the site taken in 1992 at the Walter Hill collection in Florida. Rumoured to be originally supplied to Miuke Hailwood but later proved not to be so.


2006-04-03 16:51:03  |  Anonymous writes:

This car is for sale at JD Classics, Essex, i am told its asking price is £ 75 K


2006-05-19 15:18:24  |  Julian Soddy writes:

I bought this car in Kent in 1971 from a man called Joe Tonna who actually swapped it for a 1963 MGB. The E Type was in surprisingly good condition and I owned it until late 1977 when I sold it to my freind Guy Black of Lynx who passed it on to Walter Hill in Florida. The original number was 200 MFC and the car was sold through an Oxford dealership it was believed to Mike Hailwood who had said before he was killed that this had been his car. Mike didn't keep it long because he said it leaked like a sieve and I concur that the windscreen rail leaked very badly and in the winter I sealed it with black PVC tape. Interestingly the car had all of the original features still intact - outside locks, flat floor etc, and it lacked the strengthening gussets on the rear floors where the radius arms mounted to the floor.
At the time I owned a Flying School in Kent and one of our customers, a Mr Peter Paul, had a MKX saloon which sported the number 1XKE which I was able to buy from him for the extorsionate sum of £150. So it definately was not 1 XKE when it was first registered, but 200 MFC. The engine (R1150-9) had been fitted with genuine D Type cams presumable by Jaguar. The original seats were leather covered aluminium buckets which subsequently I recognised as Lightweight competition type. I foolishly swapped these for a pair of black original 3.8 seats. I had much fun with this car during my years of ownership. We went on honeymoon in it and both my sons were picked up from the nursing home in it after they were born.
In 1976 I had entered for the Brighton speed trials and the Brakes were not up to scratch (Ihad ordered new master cylinders from Oldham and Crowther and they arrived rusted solid - surprise surprise!). I spend most of the night fitting the D cams to my other E Type 600 FBP for the event, and I believe they are still with the car. Incedentally I was re united with 600 FBP recently through Derek Hood and explained to the proud new owner that I had been the second owner of this car and fitted the cams to it.It passed from me to Dereck Bovet-White but who raced it regularly, but I beleive the I was the first to compete with it at Brighton in 1976


2006-08-17 21:17:35  |  pauls writes:

Car was sold at auction 7/06
www.classiccarsmagazine.co.uk/auctionlot/by-id/274498572/

Auction description:
Lot 549: 1961 Jaguar E-Type Series I 'Flat Floor' 3.8-Litre Roadster
Festival Of Speed, Bonhams (7th July 2006)
Overview
Dating from the first few weeks of production, this vehicle is one of the earliest surviving Jaguar E-Types (the chassis number sequence of right-hand drive roadsters commenced at 850001) and was originally, and most appropriately, registered ‘XKE 1’ in the UK. Finished in red with black interior, ‘850027’ has features typical of early production models, including the flat floor and external bonnet locks. The car is offered for sale from an important private collection of Jaguars in the USA. Returning to the UK in 2005 and registered ‘880 UXR’, it is supplied with a Swansea V5 and current MoT certificate.

Lot Details
Auction Festival Of Speed
Bonhams, Chichester, Sussex
Type Car
Lot Number 549
Estimate £45000-£65000
Hammer Price £38000
Hammer Price (inc premium) £43300
Year 1961
Condition rating 0
Registration number 880 UXR
Mileage -
Chassis number 850027
Engine number R-1150-9


2008-12-14 23:30:34  |  pauls writes:

Car is now being offered at:
www.eaglegb.com/etypes/30-1961-e-type-series-1-38-roadster.html

Sellers description:
This is an incredibly rare dealer demonstration E-Type from the launch of this iconic model in 1961. Chassis number 27, it has been sympathetically and completely restored, and surely represents one of the most collectable E-Types ever offered for sale.

Presented in Carmen Red with black trim, this E-Type was owned by Mike Hailwood, winner of nine motorcycle World Championships between 1961 and 1967, European Formula 2 Champion and a Formula One driver.

Featuring the flat floors and the outside bonnet locks of the earliest E-Types as well as a host of features that can be defined as ''pre-production prototype'', including the chrome trims and windscreen finishers. Production is from the first few months of 1961, and everything is beautifully preserved.

The history file includes a full photographic record of the restoration, a magazine feature of the process, and the story of how it was acquired and loved by a respected American collector of historic Jaguar cars. The heritage certificate confirms it as a demonstrator for Jaguar House of Oxford and that the presented colour scheme and specification is entirely correct.

Condition is, of course, pristine and represents an excellent opportunity to acquire a true piece of motoring history.

An E-Type supplied by Historic Classics benefits from expertise and preparation by Eagle E-Types, our sister company, who are widely acknowledged as the leading E-Type experts in the world.

Chassis number 27


2010-11-01 13:41:26  |  Rodney writes:

I see from the blog that one comment suggests that Mike hailwood's ownership had been disproved, but that is unsubstantiated. Now Eagle are claiming it to be Mike's car after all! Who is right? Such history mght be important to it's real value!


2011-01-31 07:05:58  |  A WOOD writes:

I owned this car bought in 1964 fo £ 900.00 ! Kept for 18 months. It appeared in a 1968 film called Dont Raise The Bridge Lower The Water starring Jerry Lewis which I have the video of.


2011-08-05 10:58:06  |  Anonymous writes:

On sale again for, gulp, £225,000 thankyewverrymush...with who else but Eagle E-types (never ones to let an E-type sell for less than six figures if they can help it). At least it is a nice car with provenance and hopefully a few orginal parts, unlike some of the high-roller wannabe specimens. But the prices are getting ridiculous in the last year from Uckfield.

"Chassis # 27 - Original E-type dealer launch car. Fully restored and very collectable.

Possibly the definitive Jaguar connoisseur's dream collectable; Original Jaguar launch E-Type, in Carmen red with black trim and used by motor racing legend Mike Hailwood.

Not only does it have the much revered 'flat floors' and 'outside bonnet locks' but in fact a whole myriad of other specific very early features.

As car No.27 there are in fact a great many parts that could be considered 'pre production' and these have all been greatly considered and preserved wherever possible during the intensive and careful restoration.

The history is interesting and has been summarised in a magazine feature which is present in the history file. The feature includes a photographic record of the restoration and describes how the car became part of the special collection of a respected American Jaguar aficionado who subsequently dedicated much time and effort on this particular piece of his collection.

The heritage certificate confirms its original purpose as launch model for Jaguar House of Oxford, having been distributed by Henly's of London on the 13th June 1961, and that the existing colour combination and specification is correct.

It is in fabulous and pristine condition today and represents a very special opportunity."


2011-08-05 18:07:56  |  Howard writes:

This story could run and run. I first saw the Ex Mike Hailwood dhc E Type in the mid 70's in my home town when it was for sale. I'd just sold my 3.8 fhc and wished I'd bought it. Also I was, and still am a huge Hailwood fan. The owner (respected specialist E Type restorer of 40 years standing) eventually swapped it for a 100/4 Healey, but the car stayed in the same town in South Wales with the next owner who kept it for 25+ years. Servicing being done by the former owner. He eventually sold it about 2-3 years ago ( after another missed opportunity for me to buy it) to a collector also in South Wales and as far as I know is still in his ownership and not currently for sale, unless a very recent private deal has been struck. Provenance though is undisputed. Mike Hailwood's name is still on the original log book.


2011-08-05 18:37:48  |  Howard writes:

Further to my earlier comment. See dhc chassis number 850070. This is the car I'm referring to. The photos I also recognize as local to South Wales. I know Mike Hailwood had a fixed head E Type and possibly more than one roadster. But with his name clearly on 850070 log book his ownership must be undisputed.


2011-08-17 17:49:35  |  Anonymous writes:

nice car,back end not Quite right assume it"s had new boot,panels etc etc...can any one confirm????? as for price (at august 2011) probably over priced by 100 k !!


2011-08-28 11:47:52  |  xke7 writes:

Vehicle offered at www.eaglegb.com/cars/1961-e-type-series-1-38-roadster-880uxr

Seller´s description:

Chassis # 27 - Original E-type dealer launch car. Fully restored and very collectable.

Possibly the definitive Jaguar connoisseur's dream collectable; Original Jaguar launch E-Type, in Carmen red with black trim and used by motor racing legend Mike Hailwood.

Not only does it have the much revered 'flat floors' and 'outside bonnet locks' but in fact a whole myriad of other specific very early features.

As car No.27 there are in fact a great many parts that could be considered 'pre production' and these have all been greatly considered and preserved wherever possible during the intensive and careful restoration.

The history is interesting and has been summarised in a magazine feature which is present in the history file. The feature includes a photographic record of the restoration and describes how the car became part of the special collection of a respected American Jaguar aficionado who subsequently dedicated much time and effort on this particular piece of his collection.

In 1968 this particular E-Type starred in the film "Don't raise the bridge, lower the water" starring Jerry Lewis, Terry Thomas, Bernard Cribbins and a young Patricia Routledge and a snippet of the car crossing Tower Bridge can be seen to the right.

The heritage certificate confirms its original purpose as launch model for Jaguar House of Oxford, having been distributed by Henly's of London on the 13th June 1961, and that the existing colour combination and specification is correct.

It is in fabulous and pristine condition today and represents a very special opportunity.

1961 Jaguar Launch Model, Used by Mike Hailwood, Chassis No. 27, 'Pre-Production' Parts, Careful Restoration, Flat Floors, Full Restoration Record, Subject of Magazine Articles, Heritage Certificate

£225,000


2011-08-31 13:35:00  |  Anonymous writes:

DO THESE SO CALLED SPECIALIST HAVE ANY IDEA? THIS CAR SOLD APPROX 5 YEARS AGO AND BEARLY MADE £40 K !!!! YES IT"S PROBABLEY HAD A GOOD FEW MAN HOURS MAKING GOOD/RESTORING ETC ETC ETC..BUT AS "ANONYMOUS" ABOVE STATES TRUE VALUE £125K MAX!!!! ASK TO SEE HIS PRICE LIST 3 YEARS AGO THEY HAVE NEARLY DOUBLED !!! (IN A RECESSION????)


2012-11-05 17:43:01  |  Anonymous writes:

not much originity left on car,was told history folder was just a few sheets of paper,anyone confim ??


2013-02-10 15:19:31  |  Anonymous writes:

I wish Henry all the luck in the world asking 225k for it....He"ll need it !!!


2013-02-13 13:35:24  |  Colin Pearcy writes:

Sorry guy's I think Henry's price is spot on -He JDC and 'E'Type Uk are the only top restorers of an 'E' and put so much time into these cars in getting them about as right as you can that they deserve to re-coup their investment.They are cheap by today's alternative marques on offer and only going to go up further in value.-Watch the market closely over the next 12 months!
I see in Octane today that RS WILLIAMS want £725k for a DB 4 converible and a SWB Ferrari is now over £2m !
This makes one of their 'E' s very good value as it will out drive both of these all day long.
(Having just just sold a DB 5 Short Chassis Vantage Volante to buy a similar 'E' to the one Henry has just restored above I do speak from first hand experience)


2013-03-03 17:16:11  |  David jacob writes:

if the car was that good and such good value why was it not sold during the "E50" CELEBRATIONS ????and why has he had the the car instock for nearly 2 years !!! Anonymous is correct the car was advertised a few years ago at about 40K !!! it"s not value for money just greed, when the bubble bursts on classic cars and bikes and money starts being invested back into commercial and residential property the prices will tumble back to a sensible level as will the hourly srvicing rate as for e-type uk...heard some bad reports !!!


2013-03-04 13:22:23  |  colin pearcy writes:

David,
I am still an investor in both commercial and residential property.Both are still way overpriced and as voids come up and one has to re-let the yields are going down.
An original genuine 'E' with a continuous history is in my view a very sound investment as once you get over £150k for a car then it is a very different customer who is buying. It is not borrowed money as it was last time the bubble burst and they want a car to use in one of the plefora of Tours and Rallies that are on offer.It's a bit of a 'Big Boys Toys' market and whats wrong with that? It's preserving cars that have previousy been allowed to decay beyond use! Sorry but that's my view.


2013-03-04 13:50:53  |  Anonymous writes:

Good point's from both sides, if however you have the money quote for the 'Big Boy's Toy's' you would be intelligent enough to know that there are better more original external lockers available for a lot less than being asked for no 27, that is a fact !


2013-03-04 15:34:05  |  Stefan writes:

Sorry to intervene, but I assume that #27 is well maintained, a well restored example to a very high or even the highest possible level?

And considering the only 86 RHD OBL roadsters made, few available on the market, most already converted to race cars, there aren't so many alternatives. IF you put 225k GBP on the table, the chance is high not to see this money back very soon. If you sell privately you might return a 150k, maybe a 175k, all depending on the quality level.

However this is always the case, if you buy from a dealer. And as outlined, how many more chances do you have? Especially a car with know history and one from the island rather than a US car - a non dealer one.

If you negotiate hard, you might get the price down to 200k GBP. And then if you are really looking for such an early car, this colour combination then I see this car as a fair deal.

Just my opinion ;)


2013-03-06 12:15:40  |  Anonymous writes:

I think the point was missed , there are more original cars available for less money, a bit of ground work required.


2013-03-06 13:04:03  |  David writes:

"Just my opinion also" , but it's difficult to take seriously any comments made by 'Anonymous' people. Lovely car, I'm sure somebody will buy it. Another ten years and there will be a few out there saying "it was cheap" !


2013-03-06 17:12:04  |  Stefan writes:

Ok, please show me the more original cars for less money. I am ready to buy as long as they are siginificantly below 200k and more original!

Thanks

Stefan


2013-03-07 12:31:30  |  Anonymous writes:

To David I would say, the observations stated are facts, whether you like it or not, while I appreciate we all would like to bull up the price of this car, in effect increasing the value of all early cars with provence, is it possible you may own such a car?, there is no dispute about the car being a' Lovely car' but originality is another question which in my humble opinion does have a bairing on price, if you know anything about originality you know what I mean.
Again based on facts there are more original cars out there well below the price being asked for 27, being anonymous does not change that point.
To Stefan I would say do the ground work there are a number of uk early cars available at this time.


2013-03-08 05:00:37  |  christopher storey writes:

If this car is so wonderful, why is the centre dash panel and/or the radio console crooked ? On the advertiser's photographs it slopes down from right to left viewed against both the left hand glovebox and against the radio console . Very strange . And the price ? - a fool and his money are soon parted


2013-03-08 16:25:54  |  David writes:

Looks better than when the factory did it !
Lets be honest all these cars are getting to be better than the 'original' factory build which wasn't that clever. They were after all just another massed produced sports car for the American market.
If it was not for that all important American market they could not have afforded the tooling for such a car, and they would not have been built at all.
The quality of cars built for home market was very questionable, after all the home market was not anywhere near as important as the export, unless it was for an important UK customer.
No unfortunately I do not own one just now.


2013-03-10 11:55:17  |  Anonymous writes:

Interesting after all the discussions the car has now SOLD


2013-03-16 09:02:06  |  colin pearcy writes:

It was not given away so perhaps my earlier posting on this subject made a little sense to 'Anonymous' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To reiterate-a sound investment for the future even though over £200k


2013-04-16 21:06:53  |  Roger Harding writes:

I veiwed the car and it certainly looks to have had a rear end at sometime!!! as for originality,... not much. sound investment even though 200k !!!! as stated above...to be continued!!!


2013-04-30 05:03:59  |  Anonymous writes:

I see that the barn find 850060 has just sold at Bonhams for £109K. Being a barn find with some alterations to standard footwells and rear bulkhead etc there will be lots to spend on a resto so perhaps £200 is not so bad


2013-05-01 16:36:06  |  Peter Raymond writes:

Hahaha, you anonymous opinionated keyboard warriors whinging about the price and spouting ignorant garbage look dumb as hell in light of chassis 60 (in need of a complete restoration including a full body) just going under the hammer for £109,000 for all to see.

And Roger Harding; "looks to have had a rear end" what does that even mean? This car has had a full restoration so it has openly and obviously had a hell of a lot more than that!

Love these brave words from anonymous as well; DO THESE SO CALLED SPECIALIST HAVE ANY IDEA? hahaha


2013-05-01 18:20:41  |  Anonymous writes:

What a great site, unfortunately it is turning into a Forum for idiots, in particular the the last composition, thank's Peter most enlightning.


2013-05-02 04:15:53  |  Peter Raymond writes:

Thanks Anonymous. Still full of comment but not even prepared to sign your name? I guess you are one of the clueless armchair experts posting on this page that has just been made to look a fool. It should be compulsory to sign your name and maybe it would put a stop to this nonsense.
Eagle sold their car - another early car has sold for £109,000 needing at least the same again spent.
So if you owned an early chassis in fully restored condition you would sell it for what? £110,000? Of course you wouldn't.
End of story.


2013-05-03 16:04:39  |  Anonymous writes:

Hi Peter, just picking up the vibes,note the comments by Anonymous, reading between the lines I think the main point was about Originality, at this point there is no question re 850060 having viewed the car, but let's see what it end up like.
If you are in the know, and you certainly advertise the fact that you are , there are more original cars out there for less money, FACT, AND END OF STORY


2013-05-08 14:13:30  |  Peter Raymond writes:

Not being confident enough to sign your name reduces your credibility and typing in capitals does not make your comment fact.
Please post links to the actual cars you are referring to and then you maybe you can truly end the story.

Stating that Chassis 27 has been fully restored does not advertise that I am 'in the know' it just shows that I can read because Eagle state it has been fully restored in the first paragraph.

Please also note that this is the actual OBL 3.8 roadster that features throughout the Jaguar Heritage Factory Original Guide so feel free to compare all those previously mentioned "better and more original" examples with the Jaguar Heritage book ;-)


2013-05-08 17:12:32  |  Anonymous writes:

Missed the point becoming tedious, if you feel the need have the last word


2013-08-04 16:49:39  |  Dave Shaw writes:

I understand 27 is back on the books, interesting having just read all the above
Interestingly Anonymous above obviously had done his homework as there are a few originall cars showing at this time


2013-08-16 21:06:28  |  20/40 writes:

In response to "HOWARD" 2011 08-05 E-Type in South Wales? I had an interesting chat to a man at the Int E-Type day 02-08-1987 at Telford. told me about E-Type 2+2 which Mike Hailwood &Rod Gould had as a company car at the Birmingham company 1979ish the car went to South Wales ?? any info on this E-Type pictures etc.


2013-08-27 19:58:26  |  Tony Jacob writes:

It"s gone up 20k !!!!!! yes I do believe it"s had a "back end job" (poorly) and I do recall it being on e-bay about 6 years ago for around the 40 k mark!!! Been on the market for about 3 years now , if it was that good it would have been snapped up by now ,did"nt sell at 225k..... some one has come up with the great marketing plan of hoisting the price up even more and hoping no body will notice !!! how much will he ask in 2016????? when it"s still knocking around?


2013-08-31 12:54:46  |  xke7 writes:

www.eaglegb.com/pages/first-class-stamp-jaguar-e-type

880 UXR is currently for sale on on our sales pages. It is the 27th E-Type that Jaguar made and was distributed in 1961 as one of the official dealer demonstrator cars.

It is one of the six cars photographed by James Mann for the Royal Mail to represent British Automotive Legends and, with its registration number identifiable, is now immortalised on the first class stamp.


2013-09-01 11:13:59  |  Chris Short writes:

A fresh new marketing exercise, very clever, immortalised on a stamp, it's about who you know.
There is still the thorny question about originality v price.


2013-09-03 19:22:23  |  David Summers writes:

will be quite interesting to see if the car sells,could"nt convince anyone to buy it during the "E50"celabrations and now with the wopping price tag of nearly a quarter of a million !!!


2013-09-17 11:52:50  |  Anonymous writes:

No 850038 sells for £225K at Bonhams Goodwood sale - Restored with replacement engine. Hmmm


2013-09-18 05:00:51  |  Chris Short writes:

Viewed 850038 at the auction, Doner car used as there was not one piece of the original car left, noted engine block number started with a Z ?


2013-09-22 17:24:36  |  Anonymous writes:

I agree with some of the 'negative' comments, not really negative just being absolutely honest to be honest is the word. This E-Type is ridiculously overpriced and why? one word: greed, plain and simple. I heard Eagle acquired an E-Type from someone and sold it on at twice the price without even doing a thing to it; talk about being robbed. Where's the recession? Please, bring these lovely cars back down to sensible planet Earth prices not cloud cuckoo land prices.


2013-09-23 04:02:19  |  Stefan writes:

Why all the fuzz about the pricing?

If the car is overpriced, it won't sell as it did not for a long while now. If it is rightly priced it will sell. And time will tell, if it will be rightly priced at any point of time and for one customer who then will swallow the drop.
And of course a shop like eagle has a complete different reputation and appeal other potential customers as we would when we sell privately. Rich buggers go for fun there and look at 10-20 E-Types rather select only one in the net to be visited.

Eagle has to earn the money for keeping the car for such a long while (capital charges), the workshop and showroom facilities, warranty, development and many more. So if a rich bugger comes along and likes the car - what is the issue?

And finally, I cannot afford the car no matter if at 225k, 245k or 145k.....


Good luck!

Stefan


2013-09-25 19:07:43  |  Anonymous writes:

it"s just greed !!!!! check peter jarvis webb site for just as unrealistic prices, every car he advertises has sparkling chrome, spare unused, garaged from new!!! Lets see the prices go back to what they where 5 or 6 years ago. I looked at a series 3 commemorative priced at 95k at eagkle which at the time was way overpriced ,he had the same car listed a few months ago for over 250k !!! a whopping increase of 150k in 5 years.... fed up of speaking to so called e-type specialists who"s sales pitch includes phrases such as ..sound investment, better than money in the bank ,etc etc the truth can been found at companies house with there latest audited set of accounts that highlight "huge" overdraught,mortgages etc that need to be financed !!


2013-09-28 01:58:21  |  Stefan writes:

This might all be right. And yes, if you purchase such a car to such a price reselling for the same amount is potentially not possible for years if not decades assuming the condition of the car does not deteriorate.

However as outlined, some rich people just go "shopping". And in the same manner as we buy a pair of jeans or a cardigan, they buy cars. And they do not care, if a car is 100k too expensive for the normal market.

On the other hand, prices have gone up and shops like eagle help them to do so.

So noone is obliged to buy at such shops, but as long someone does, they survive.....


2013-10-01 19:44:20  |  Neil Brinkler writes:

Sold my fathers e type series1 roadster to one of the big specialist recommended by "one of the clubs" Had no idea of true value as at the time was just a car parked in the garage collecting dust, the chap who came round sounded very convincing with a list of potential problems so in the end we sold it to him for £25,000,00... 4 weeks later I had a call from my brother who was on the dealers webb site advertising it for £80,000,00 !!!! So must agree with remark above "it"s just greed"


2013-10-03 10:15:52  |  pauls writes:

On the dealers part greed hoping to find a wealthy and complacent buyer, they are out there.


2013-10-03 17:07:23  |  Stefan writes:

Chaps, you don't want to tell me that it is the dealer's fault when the seller doesn't know about the value of something?

Will you always be so honest - have you been so? On Ebay or on any jumble, when you made a bargain you returned to the seller and gave him the additional money, he wasn't asking for?

Guys, we are living in capitalism...... wake up!

I was also fooled when selling things but made also some bargains. Sometimes I had to pay a fortune for something I really needed to have whereby it is doubtable to get the money back, when selling again. But this is as it is, this is life.


2013-10-08 18:11:04  |  Neil Brinkler writes:

point taken only on your scenario.... the difference was we explained our situation to "the club"representative who recommended this particular company to us telling us they where a reputable company, we also checked "the club" valuation certificates in the history folder that indicated a figure of around 35k, I spoke to representative recently who said they stopped showing price guides as certain dealers where complaining because "joe public" wanted to pay what was shown... NEED I SAY MORE????


2013-10-27 19:04:55  |  Barry writes:

Has anyone got any information on series 1 2+2 reputedly owned by Mike Hailwood &Rod gould circa 1978-79 Birmingham Honda dealership ?? pictures or any info much appreciated.


2013-11-22 07:00:36  |  Peter Raymond writes:

I can't wait to hear what the Anonymous's think of the restored 4.2 roadster that was just sold by RM auctions for $467,500.
Now tell us all how expensive 850027 is considering it is the 27th E-Type built, it is fully restored, it is the E-Type that was chosen to feature as the early car in the Jaguar Heritage Guide and was chosen by the Royal Mail for their special edition stamps.
I have no interest in this car but get riled reading the garbage being spouted by people so unconfident in what they have to say that they won't even sign their names.


2013-11-23 04:29:56  |  Stefan writes:

Peter,

Do you have a link to this whopping result? Ähhhh, I also wanna sell my car for this amount ;+)

THX

Stefan


2013-11-23 04:33:59  |  Stefan writes:

I found it - cool stuff! Finally the most iconic car is also lifted in it price...

Imagine if Enzo had built the car in the quantity of +- 50 pcs. We now would talk about 5 Million GBP plus and the Jaguar E-Type would exceed all other classics in admiration and price....


2013-11-23 07:28:17  |  pauls writes:

Gentlemen, 1E11911 is the car that sold for the ballistic price: www.xkedata.com/cars/detail/?car=1E11911

That the car sold for that price is a fact, another is there are hundreds of nice E-types for sale every day for under $100k, at least today. No question they will not measure up to the restoration of that particular car but nothing another $100k couldn't fix, much less an additional $367k. A spectacular JCNA concourse winner, shipped around the US by Jaguar to be put on display for the 50th anniversary celebrations of the E-type was sold that year for $125k.


2013-11-24 13:39:49  |  Anonymous writes:

Peter Peter,sat hear in the snow,just caught up with your rambling's
Feeling exhausted over having to labour the point re Originality
And for the big bucks you want exactly that
By the way not signing my name does not detract from the facts
Interestingly thought you had to have the last word, getting riled !get a life.


2013-11-26 06:05:33  |  David writes:

Jealousy is a terrible thing.


2014-01-02 11:45:24  |  Barry writes:

"Happy New year E-TYPE lover's"


2014-01-14 18:38:54  |  Peter Martin writes:

Do I need to spell it out!!! ???? 3 years ago it was offered for sale by eagle at a "whopping" 225k lots of followers saying it"s worth it, could"n t shift so puts the price up to 245k!!, lots more followers saying it still "represents good value in todays market"..... still no sale..... January 2014 , guess what????? still not sold, and yes you are right it"s been whacked up to a hefty new price tag of 285K!!!!... I spent many years studying business at the LSE and other universities and the basic principal for shop owners and retail stores is if your stuck with a"white elephant" or slow moving lines reduce the price to clear....... he puts them up ????? also noticed he has a messed around commemorative for sale,price has leapfrogged a massive 50k since before Christmas.... do these dealers really think genuine classic car enthusiasts are mugs? ..look forward to reading any further remarks made in favor of the new improved asking price.


2014-01-15 18:53:00  |  Anonymous writes:

100% correct Peter!!!


2014-02-05 16:36:27  |  xke7 writes:

www.eaglegb.com/cars/1961-e-type-series-1-38-roadster-880uxr

1961 S1 3.8 Roadster

£285,000


1961 Jaguar Launch Model

Chassis No. 27

'Pre-Production' Parts

Used in the 'Factory Original' book

Flat Floors

Full Restoration Record

Subject of Magazine Articles

Actual E-Type on Royal Mail stamps


Chassis # 27 - Original E-type dealer launch car. Fully restored and very collectable.
1961 E-Type Series 1 3.8 Roadster Interior

Possibly the definitive Jaguar connoisseur's dream collectable; Original Jaguar launch E-Type, in Carmen red with black trim.

Not only does it have the much revered 'flat floors' and 'outside bonnet locks' but in fact a whole myriad of other specific very early features.

As car No.27 there are in fact a great many parts that could be considered 'pre production' and these have all been greatly considered and preserved wherever possible during the intensive and careful restoration.

The history is interesting and has been summarised in a magazine feature which is present in the history file. The feature includes a photographic record of the restoration and describes how the car became part of the special collection of a respected American Jaguar aficionado who subsequently dedicated much time and effort on this particular piece of his collection.

In 1968 this particular E-Type starred in the film "Don't raise the bridge, lower the water" starring Jerry Lewis, Terry Thomas, Bernard Cribbins and a young Patricia Routledge and a snippet of the car crossing Tower Bridge can be seen to the right.

The heritage certificate confirms its original purpose as launch model for Jaguar House of Oxford, having been distributed by Henly's of London on the 13th June 1961, and that the existing colour combination and specification is correct.

This is the actual car used in the original E-Type guide book; 'Factory Original - Jaguar E-Type' to define the 3.8 models. The book is the official Jaguar Heritage originality bible.

It is also the actual car featuring on a set of six Royal Mial first class stamps depicting six definitive British classic cars.

JIm Patten writing for Jaguar World Magazine tells its very interesting complete celebrity story here.

It is in fabulous and pristine condition today and represents a very special opportunity.


2014-02-27 19:12:54  |  Nick Stokes writes:

"REPRESENTS A VERY SPECIAL OPPORTUNITY"....... who for?, the buyer or the SELLER !!!!, Have watched the price of this car treble in price over the last 7 years true value approx. £150k not a penny more


2014-03-01 10:43:32  |  Stefan writes:

Hello Nick,

Where does your quote come from? Reflecting, that in the meantime unrestored cars achieve GBP 96.000,- plus 15% premium and VAT? With a professional restoration 850060 will most likely end up in this price region, if not beyond...

I admit, my feeling says the same: "too expensive!". In the meantime however at least cars in auctions tell a different story. It is a crude theory but I assume, that the car would have sold by now if remained on the former price tags of GBP 225.000,- or GBP 245.000,-. So Eagle is in my oppinion just always a leap ahead of a fair market evaluation. Maybe they try to make the market?!

And yes, any price in the region GBP 200k plus is a real lot of Money for an E-Type. But really good early cars go into this direction! If we are already in a bubble?! Who knows...

Good luck for all E-Type owners and even more luck for the ones, who are intending to buy one.

Stefan


2014-04-26 19:34:23  |  Anonymous writes:

looks like Peter Martin is right, needs to price reduce by 100k.... average restoration with no real history folder cannot command top asking price


2014-05-14 08:36:30  |  Xavier-Philippe writes:

Hello,

I look for information and for photos on another MIKE HAILWWOD'S XKE. It is a FHC and a registered 9555 DP. We see him in a video with this XKE in the GP of Spa 1964.

Thank you for help.

Xavier-Philippe


2014-05-22 18:51:27  |  Barry writes:

Hello Xavier-Philippe, The only thing I could go on would be the year and Registration: Note that 9600 HP was a "61" FHC ? so any info should steer you to a chassis no of 885- - -to 886- - -I Hope you get some results. I am looking for Series 1 2+2 which I asked the forum for help, still no joy, read above column. Many thanks Barry.


2014-06-12 19:06:19  |  Anonymous writes:

june 2014....... the "white elephant" is still for sale !!!


2014-06-13 07:01:53  |  Anonymous writes:

Maybe he is "a real classic car enthusiast" 9what ever that is) and doesn't really want to sell ?


2014-06-13 17:32:48  |  Anonymous writes:

yes quite possibly,or perhaps he"s just greedy???


2014-06-13 17:34:34  |  Anonymous writes:

Sorry correction from above, "The red elephant",,,,


2014-06-16 06:38:00  |  Philip writes:

Seems like a really nice guy to me.


2014-08-08 03:52:26  |  Anonymous writes:

For sale at Silverstone auction 4th September
www.silverstoneauctions.com/1961-jaguar-e-type-series-i-38-roadster--chassis-850 ...

Registration: 880 UXR
Chassis Number: 850027
Engine Number: R1150-9
Number of cylinders: 6
CC: 3800
Year of Manufacture: 1961
Estimate (£): 200,000 - 250,000

The story of the E-Type requires little introduction, however, what perhaps does need explaining is the importance of early E-Types to understand how the pursuit of the unobtainable drives even the best-heeled of collector's. The most sought of all the E-Types are the first 92 RHD cars produced - all featuring and identified by their outside bonnet locks. In total, 56, so almost all of the first cars, were supplied in July 1961 to the Jaguar dealerships, most to be the demonstrator for each dealer who were forbidden to sell these cars until that September. With most of the first 20 cars produced being allocated for competition use, the very first road cars are considered to be the Holy Grail of all collector cars. Chassis #027 is a rare opportunity to enjoy the thrill of ownership unsurpassed by many other exotic cars, and works out to be the 10th chassis number of the road going examples released outside Jaguar's hand-picked first clients.

Not only does it have the much revered 'flat floors' and 'outside bonnet locks' but in fact a whole myriad of other specific very early features including a smooth cut-away groove at the top of the A-post cappings, single boot hinges, thicker screen chrome mouldings, thinner dashboard top-roll, Lucas PL front lamps, split-link throttle linkage and separate, welded-in bonnet louvres.

As car Number 27 there are in fact a great many parts that could be considered 'pre-production' and these have all been greatly considered and preserved wherever possible during the intensive and careful restoration. So good and so iconic, this actual car is the one depicted on the recent commemorative Royal Mail Stamps which featured six British Classics, with a first day cover included within the history file.

Rumoured to have been first owned by Mike Hailwood in 1961 regrettably these claims cannot be corroborated, although it seems very likely he must have had the use of it at some point, however, what is known is that #027 was gifted to 21-year-old Alan Wood in 1964, before a short period of ownership by budding Pilot Joe Tonna which saw him straight-swap his Carmen Red E-Type for Julian Soddy's yellow MGB roadster in the early 70's. Chassis number 27 was then owned, cherished and even hill-climbed by enthusiastic Pilot, Julian Soddy until 1978. Julian used this car devotedly even honeymooning in his beloved E-Type. Included in the history file is a wonderful account of his eight year tenure living and loving 850027. One particularly fine tale is offered: "My fiancé was also my secretary and therefore often drove the Jaguar. She always told me that she never exceeded 60mph, but naturally I suspected otherwise, and often expressed this opinion to the accompaniment of vigorous denials. One morning we had to drive to a neighbouring airfield some 12 miles away in order to pick up the Stampe after some maintenance work. I strapped myself to the aeroplane and after a short, but mandatory, aerobatic display, I set heading for base. I flew at 1500ft and sighted the E-Type some five miles along the main road, obviously going at a rate of knots. I decided to formate on her and sat at about 500ft above and behind the rocketing Jaguar with air speed indicator hovering on 100kts. That's about 120mph or so but in fairness there was a headwind of about 15-20kts which still made the speed in excess of the magical ton. I had my proof, but despite protestations of underhand tactics I knew deep down that it wouldn't make any difference, so I married the girl!"

Showing signs of passionate usage, #027 was sold in 1978 to Guy Black of Lynx Motors who set about a full and complete restoration. This was only part completed before Walter C. Hill, himself an airline pilot and recognised Jaguar collector in the USA received this E-Type via the Port of Miami in late June 1980. Here chassis 27 would be the first member of what was to become a world class Jaguar collection; being later joined by such stable mates as a C-Type, D-Type, XKSS, the original Low Drag E-Type "CUT 7", alongside one of the 12 original lightweight E-Types, an IMSA/Le Mans 1980's Jaguar XJR 5 and XK120 chassis number 670001. Walter was exceptionally hands-on and over the period of two or three years completed the restoration begun by Guy Black to an exceptional and sympathetic standard.

By 2005 the Hill collection was becoming too much and several cars, including #027 was sold by auction eventually arriving on British shores to known UK collector, the late Mr Henry Weitzman of Rickmansworth. Re-registered in the UK in 2006 this car was assigned registration number 880 UXR as it retains today. On returning to UK shores and joining the Weitzman collection, chassis #027 was entrusted to Webster &Lancaster of Hertfordshire whereupon some £3,000 was spent on a thorough service and recommissioning. Now showing just 300 something miles, it is believed that this could indeed be the genuine mileage post-restoration in 1980-83.

The history is interesting and has been summarised in a Jaguar World Monthly magazine feature from July 2012 by Jim Patten which is present in the history file. In 1968 this particular E-Type starred in the film "Don't raise the bridge, lower the river" starring Jerry Lewis, Terry Thomas, Bernard Cribbins and a young Patricia Routledge where chassis #027 can be seen in several scenes.

The heritage certificate confirms its original purpose as the launch model for Jaguar House of Oxford, having been distributed by Henlys of London on the 13th June 1961, and that the existing colour combination of Carmen Red with Black leather trim is correct. The registration 200 MFC was assigned at the time though this was sadly lost in 1975 when the irresistible '1 XKE' was sourced for #850027.

This is the actual car featured in the original E-Type guide book by Anders Ditlev Clausager; 'Factory Original - Jaguar E-Type' to define the 3.8 models. The book is the official Jaguar Heritage originality bible with #027 featured throughout and, as already mentioned, it is also the actual car featuring on a set of six Royal Mail first class stamps depicting six definitive British classic cars.

Possibly the definitive Jaguar connoisseur's dream collectable it is in fabulous and pristine yet not over-restored condition today and represents a very special opportunity.


2014-08-15 17:02:00  |  david jackson writes:

It cannot be any less genuine than 850071 that has been re-shelled, has another engine and box and zero history.


2014-08-31 09:36:55  |  Anonymous writes:

Just noticed the ash tray mounting bracket is upside down - that must reduce the asking price by a grand at least !


2014-09-04 14:56:17  |  Anonymous writes:

sold for £212,750 inc buyers premium


2014-09-07 19:14:22  |  Anonymous writes:

Ok answers a lot of questions!!!! So the owner would have received about £185k the rest made up of commission and vat, perhaps if eagle was"nt so greedy on his asking prices and a bit more realistic to what people are prepared to pay the car would have sold about 3 years ago when they first advertised it...... the owner would have received a similler amount and the car woud"nt have been labled "THE RED ELEPHANT"


2014-09-09 13:24:06  |  Anonymous writes:

actually I made it £173,600 !


2014-09-15 17:29:38  |  Anonymous writes:

oh no can it get any worse!!!!


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